

ixusus escribió:hola!
Mi consejo es que con la trembolna SIEMPRE useis testo.
hariais un ciclo solo de deca? pues esto lo mismo,
bueno es mi consejo, siempre podeis hacer caso a los gurus...
ciao!!!




Pero si uno es andrògenico y el otro es anabòlico, te recmomiendo que leas los perfiles aunque sea y deja de estar leyendo barbaries que dicen en tus foros y no las traigas para acà, de verdad no se que te ha pasado amigo pero estas de remate


ixusus escribió:que uno es anabolico y el otro androgenico???
creo que no sabes ni de lo que hablas

"...Trembolone acetate estrogenic activity NONE..." anabolics 2006 pag 242
"...Trembolones is a strong androgen that is devoid of estrogenic activity..." anabolics 2006 pag 242
"...the strong androgenic and non-storgenic properties of this steroid made it ideal for increasing muscle hardness, definition and strength without water retention..." anabolics 2006 pag 242
"...structurally trembolone is a 19-nor steroide, being delivered from the anabolic nandrolone. Its aditional two alterations however (c9 and c11 double bonds) make trembolone very different in appearance than its parent nandrolone. First , as mentioned estrogenic activity has been eliminated. This is the result of the c9-10 double bond, wich occupies a bond that would be necessary for aromatization of the A ring to be possible. This bond does not appear to be removed metabolically, wich is the only way estrogen conversion would be possible with this compound..." anabolics 2006 pag 242
ixusus escribió: a ver pq se debe tomar un antiestrogenico con la testo?
ixusus escribió:que la testo es para potenciar que??
vamoa a ver señores, que la testo en un ciclo de trembo se utiliza para no tener el libido por los suelos!!!!!!!!!
potenciar dice,
"... its lack of estrogenic activity has made trembolone very appealing for competitive athletes looking to sheed fat, while at the same time trying to avoid water retention. Likewise "tren" can give us the high androgen content needed in order to elicit a very hard, defined physique. While it is a notheworthy hardening agent, this is certainly not the only benefit to this steroid however, it also a noteworthy anabolic. The muscle building properties of this steroid are often compared to strong drugs such as testosterone and dianabol, said to be very similar just without the same level of water retention. This may be a little generous description however. Its lack of estrogenic activity does seem to hurt this agent in its abilities to promote muscle mass gains. for many, it is similarly still relegated to cutting cycles. Of interest is the fact that while trembolone if often recomended as a great adition to a good mass cycle, it is rarely reported to be such a powerful agent when used alone. When taken without another estrogenic steroid, results are most often reported as good lean tissue growth accompained by exceptional hardening and fat loss. Although perhaps it is not quite as potent as the more estrogenic bulking agents if sheer mass is the goal, I think we can still safelly say that trembolone is a better builder miligram for miligram than nandrolone, and likely the most anabolic of all the non estrogenic steroids..." anabolics 2006 pag 242
"...trembolone will also supress natural testosterone production very quickly, making clear that estrogen is not the only culprit in this regard. This would necessitate the use of a testosterone stimulating drug like clomid/nolvadex and or HCG in order to avoid a pronounced "crash" as the drug is discontinued. This may have something to do with its progestational activity. Altough listed as non-progestational in other steroid literature, studies clearly show trenbolone to binf with this receptor 151 152. Since we know that all sex steroids promote negative feedback inhibition of testosterone production, incluiding progestins, this mechanism cannot be excluded. We also know that the effects of estrogen seem to be augmented by heightened progestins levels 153, with this hormone capable of inducing side effects that migth not be apparent with a given level of estrogen in the body. However, while we do notice that estrogenic side effects do not seem to be reprted with trembolone, it may still be reasonable to conclude that some caution should be taken with this compound (particularly when using this steroid with other strogenic steroids). Logic leads one to think that without heightened estrogen levels, the sligth progestational nature of trembolone may fail to induce side effects. While it would have the potential of lowering ones threshold to side effects when other estrogenic steroids are used concurrently by enhancing the actions of this hormone...." anabolics 2006 pag 242
151 Characterization of the afinity of different anabolics and synthetic hormones to the human androgen receptor, human sex hormone binding globulin and to the bovine progestin receptor. Bauer, Meyer et al. Acta Pathol Microbiol Inmunol Scand Suppl 108 (2000) 838-46
152 Unique steroids congeners for receptor studies. Ojasoo, Raynaud. Cancer Research 38 (1978) 4186-98
153 Progesterone is not essential to the differentiative potential of mammary epithelium in the male mouse. Freeman, Topper. Endocrinology. 1978 Jul;103(1):186-92
ixusus escribió:que tiene que ver los androgenos con la libido???
"...testosterone will elicit dramatic phisiologycal changes in the male body. This include the onset of secondary male characteristics such as deepened voice, body and facial hair growth, increased oil output by the sebaceous glands, development of sexual orgasms, maturation of sperm, and increased libido..." ''...all such effects are considered masculinizing or androgenic properties of this hormone..." Anabolics 2006 pag 12
"...The functioning of the male reproductive system depends greatly on the level of androgenic hormones in the body. Therefore, the use of syntetic male hormones may have a dramatic impact on an individual's sexual wellness. On one extreme, we may see a man's libido and erection frequency become significantly heightened. This is most commonly seen with the use of strongly androgenic steroids, wich seem to have the most dramatic stimulating impact on the system. In som einstances, this can reach the point of becoming problematic, although more ofthen than not, The athlete is sympl emuch more active and sexually aggressive during the intake of steroids.
On the other extreme, we may also see a lack of sexual interest, possibly to the point of impotency. This occurs mainly when androgenic hormones are very low. This will often happen after a steroid cycle is discontinued..." Anabolics 2006 pag 38




joelitoprimero1 escribió:ixusus escribió:hola!
Mi consejo es que con la trembolna SIEMPRE useis testo.
hariais un ciclo solo de deca? pues esto lo mismo,
bueno es mi consejo, siempre podeis hacer caso a los gurus...
ciao!!!
Tu crees que la trembolona es igual al deca![]()
Pero si uno es andrògenico y el otro es anabòlico, te recmomiendo que leas los perfiles aunque sea y deja de estar leyendo barbaries que dicen en tus foros y no las traigas para acà, de verdad no se que te ha pasado amigo pero estas de remate![]()
Saludos![]()
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Darth Pincho escribió:Estimados foreros voy a proceder a dejar al amigo ixusus en RIDICULO como el respectivo ignorante que es. Los 4 anos que he pasado leyendo y traduciendo material para publicar en esta página no han sido en vano.
En otro post el cual borre pues era una total animalada de este señor el dice que la trembolona causa problemas de ginecomastia. mmmm ok. Bueno pues yo tengo varias referencias bibliograficas que revelaran cuan animal eres.
La primera de ellas es que he hecho puros ciclos con trembolona desde que empecé a tener problemas con la gyne, y nunca sentí ni una pequeña molestia en los pezones durante ni después del ciclo.
Las bibliograficas son:
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[quoteActividad estrogenica del acetato de Trembolone es NINGUNA…” anabolics pag 2006 242 “… Trembolona es un andrógeno fuerte que es desprovisto de actividad estrogenica…” anabolics pag 2006 242 “… las características androgénicas y non-estrogenicas fuertes de este esteroide hicieron ideal para la dureza, la definición y la fuerza de aumento del músculo sin la retención del agua…” anabolics pag 2006 242 “… la trembolona es estructural 19 un esteroide, siendo entregado del nandrolone anabólico. Sus alteraciones adicionales sin embargo (los enlaces dobles c9 y c11) hace de la trembolona muy diferente en aspecto que su nandrolone del padre. Primero, como actividad estrogenica mencionada se ha eliminado. Éste es el resultado c9-10 del enlace doble, wich ocupa un enlace que sería necesario para la aromatización del anillo de A ser posible. Este enlace no aparece ser quitado metabólico, wich es la única manera que la conversión del estrógeno sería posible con este compuesto…” anabolics pag 2006 242
ixusus escribió: a ver pq se debe tomar un antiestrogenico con la testo?
ixusus escribió:que la testo es para potenciar que??
vamoa a ver señores, que la testo en un ciclo de trembo se utiliza para no tener el libido por los suelos!!!!!!!!!
potenciar dice,
ixusus escribió:que tiene que ver los androgenos con la libido???





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