hipogonadismo hipogonadotropico leve.

Buenas señores, les visité hace unos 3 meses, llevo años quejandome de no verme desarrollado como hombre, ando bajo de peso y talla, a pesar de tener 25 años. Entreno de forma moderada y como saludablemente.

El médico me ha diagnosticado un hipogonadismo hipogonadrotopico leve, pero afirma que en este caso la unica opcion que hay es una terapia de por vida con testosterona y dice que es peor el remedio que la enfermedad, asi que me ha mandado para casa sin mas.

Las hormonas, hemogramas e incluso una resonancia magnetica de mi hipofisis son normales. lo unico destacable es FSH y LH normales pero justo en el limite inferior. testosterona libre fuera de rango , muy baja, pero él dice que eso ya no se usa, que no le da importancia. (@|€#@2)

Yo no quiero rendime, he pensado un ciclo de testosterona, entrar estimular el eje notar las mejoras, y salir sano y salvo con un buen postciclo. Soy farmaceutico sin trabajo. Busco mas opiniones y consejos. Yo estoy seguro de querer actuar, ahora necesito orientación e información de gente con experiencia como vosotros.

gracias.

Nadie puede orientarme? soy de España. por foro o por privado, os lo agradeceré eternamente

Es que si padeces de eso… una vez te recuperes del ciclo volverás a tu estado normal… y si quieres aumentar tus niveles deberás usar la terapia de reemplazo… es decir un testex cada 3 semanas creo que es… :frowning:

Buenas y obvia respuesta. Lo aclaro un poco mas: Me han diagnosticado hipogonadismo hipogonadrotopico SECUNDARIO, es decir mis testituculos estan bien; el problema viene a otra altura del eje que el medico ignora o desconoce. Yo arrastro este problema desde la pubertad, cuando estuve tomando FINASTERIDE (inhibe el paso de testo a DHT) decisión fatal por parte dle medico que me lo mandó. Yo he pensado tomar un post-ciclo que reactive el eje, algo asi:


Primero -un mínimo de tres pinchos de hcg 1500ui cada 3 días. 20mg de tamoxifeno día.
Segundo, tres días despueés del último pincho empezar con omifin 100mg por 5 dias y 50mg por 10 dias junto con 20mg de tamoxifeno día.
Tercero, al terminar el omifin subir a 40mg de tamoxifeno diarios al menos dos semanas, bajar a 30 otras dos semanas, bajar a 20 otras dos semanas y bajar a 10mg otras dos semanas más.
Cuarto empezar con un bote de tribulus o ZMA.

Pero necesito mas opiniones y sobre todo orientación en relacion a esos productos. UN SALUDO y gracias.

Ajam! es cierto, no lo recordaba, ya había leído sobre tu problema… bueno pues prueba un postciclo básico…

1000ui hcg e3d hasta sumar las 5000ui y luego 1 semana a 100mg ed clomid+30mg ed tamoxifeno+ 2 semanas a 50mg clomid ed+20mg tamoxifeno ed y de nuevo analíticas…

Pero lo cierto que últimamente he leído un estudio que una persona sana se recupera sin hacer uso de nada entre 3 y 6 meses… por lo tanto… pero bueno intentalo y mucha suerte!

Artículo didáctico sobre uso de clomid para hipogonadismo sec.
Google el texto para ver el artículo completo y consulte su conveniencia.
Ahí describen exactamente su diagnóstico y dicen que el medicamento Chlomid, que existe hace décadas, logra que sus testes aumenten la producción de T y no se atrofien como sucede con inyecciones.

A Testosterone Therapy Alternative for Men with Low Testosterone Levels

Whether you are a 30, 50, 80 or even 110 year old man, having low testosterone levels (hypogonadism) is neither fun nor healthy. The symptoms of low testosterone in men range from lack of energy, depressed mood, loss of vitality, muscle atrophy (sarcopenia), muscles aches, low libido, erectile dysfunction, and weight gain…to bone loss (osteopenia), osteoporosis, mild anemia, increased risk of Alzheimer’s, increased risk of high-grade prostate cancer, and increased risk of death due to all

As you may know, low testosterone in men may be caused by problems in the testes (or gonads). This is called primary hypogonadism and can be brought on by the mumps, testicular trauma, or testicular cancer, etc., and can only be treated with testosterone replacement therapy. However, the more common causes of low testosterone/hypogonadism result from problems in the pituitary gland and/or hypothalamus in a man’s brain. Low testosterone levels caused by such “brain problems” are collectively described as secondary hypogonadism or hypogonadotropic hypogonadism and may result from depression/anxiety, head trauma, iron overload, anabolic steroid overdosing, diabetes, sleep deprivation, or some medications.

Traditionally, if low testosterone is diagnosed, testosterone replacement therapy is prescribed, and it most commonly comes in the form of a cream, gel, pellet, patch, and by injection. And although these types of therapy are effective, some methods are better than others, and there are side-effects with all of them. For example, testicular shrinkage, gynecomastia (breast enlargement), low sperm count/sterility, and polycythemia (overproduction of red blood cells) are common side-effects of testosterone replacement therapy (for many sufferers, these side-effects are mostly treatable or considered “worth it” by the patient).

However, specifically due to the sterility side-effect, such testosterone treatments aren’t a good option for men who want to have children. In these (usually young) hypogonadal men, clomiphene citrate (CC pill, or Clomid) and/or human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) have been used (by specialists) for decades to increase testosterone production, increase sperm production, and increase fertility. Both these therapies effectively help signal the testes to produce testosterone and thereby increase testosterone levels (assuming of course the cause of the initial problem is not in the testes’ ability to make testosterone). See “David” below for an oversimplified diagram of how clomiphene, HCG, and testosterone work within the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis.

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In a healthy male, the pituitary gland in the brain releases luteinizing hormone (LH) into the blood stream, which signals the testes to “GO” and produce testosterone. After testosterone has been produced it naturally converts to some estrogen (yes, there’s estrogen in men too) and this estrogen acts as a “STOP” signal to the pituitary to stop making LH. It is a delicate system of checks and balances which I have simplified here for our purposes.

Clomid (clomiphene citrate, or CC pill) works by blocking estrogen at the pituitary and hypothalamus. Thus, the usual estrogen message to “STOP” production of LH is essentially silenced, and therefore the pituitary makes more LH and there is an increased “GO” signal to produce testosterone in the testes. HCG works by mimicking LH, which also increases the “GO” signal to produce more testosterone in the testes. Prescribing testosterone for a man, however, does the opposite of what clomiphene and HCG do.

With traditional testosterone replacement therapy, the brain (hypothalamus and pituitary) gets the message that there is plenty of testosterone being made in the testes, so much so that it doesn’t need to make anymore. Subsequently, the pituitary stops producing LH, and the natural production of testosterone (and sperm) in the testes ceases, which is why traditional testosterone replacement results in testicular shrinkage and low sperm count…a man’s testosterone and sperm manufacturing plant is essentially shut off.

Clomiphene citrate (CC pill) and/or HCG do not turn off the testosterone manufacturing plant but rather turn it back on or reboot it. While some hypogonadal men require continuous use of clomiphene, for others it can be used for a 3-6 month time period and then discontinued. And, the checks and balances system is not interrupted, so there aren’t the testosterone replacement side-effects which occur due to intentional or unintentional testosterone overdosing. Most interestingly, although it used to be thought that clomiphene and/or HCG only worked on young men, in the past decade or so it has been used effectively in older men too.

The 5 Main Reasons Clomiphene Citrate (CC pill, or Clomid) May be a Good Alternative to Testosterone Replacement Therapy in Men with Low Testosterone Due to Secondary Hypogonadism:

  1. Clomiphene citrate (CC pill) stimulates the body’s own production of testosterone

  2. Clomiphene citrate (CC pill) doesn’t interfere with the body’s checks and balances of testosterone

  3. Clomiphene citrate (CC pill) comes as a pill easily administered by mouth

  4. Clomiphene citrate (CC pill) is generic and very cheap2

  5. Clomiphene citrate (CC pill) has little side-effects and low risk of developing these side-effects3